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Article Source: The New York Times
WASHINGTON — After two hours of impassioned debate, the Capitol was braced for the grand finale of Speaker John A. Boehner’s days of strong-arming members on the most important vote of his Congressional career. Suddenly, with no warning and just minutes from a vote Thursday evening, the conversation on the House floor turned to naming post offices.
Because this is the most important piece of business they have. Who cares about jobs or the economy? It's clear the Republican'ts don't.
Thus began the great pizza seduction. One after another, recalcitrant Republicans were marched into Mr. Boehner’s office, where he begged, implored and, when that failed, berated them in a desperate effort to win support for his proposal to resolve the debt crisis.
Representative Kevin McCarthy, the House whip, bought a pile of pizzas, and asked those members who were against the bill to come on over for a slice, and some haranguing.
Pizza should have totally worked.
Years from now the failure to raise the debt limit will be laid at at Boehner's feet. But in fact his whole party is to blame. They lined themselves up behind the Tea Party in order to achieve electoral gains in the 2010 election, and in doing so they grabbed a tiger by the tail. The fact is, there are now three parties in U.S. politics, the Democrats, the GOP, and the Tea Party. Ostensibly within the Republican party, the Tea Party cannot be controlled by the old line GOP (Boehnoer et al). The only hope for legislation to stave off default now will require the combined votes of Democrats and moderate Republicans, and what will that mean for the GOP? That the remaining moderate Republicans will be purged? Or that the GOP will withdraw its support for the Tea Party. Clearly the two can't coexist in a fashion that permits them to govern.
The GOP is tearing itself up, which would be fine with me, except they're going to tear up our futures in the process.
Can't wait to go to the new John Boehner's career memorial post office.
The President has the duty to raise the debt limit so as not to impair the nations good faith and credit .... http://coralatlas.newsvine.com/_news/2011/07/24/7155135-article-vi-14th-amendment-section-4-and-article-ii-remedies-analysis-opinion
President to GOP House Reps: Go ahead, make my day!
Pizza should have totally worked.
Of course it did not work, they only brought in Veggie Pizza. Only Paul Ryan eats the veggie stuff, the rest need their Fat and Grease.
This is what happens when you hire a crybaby to do a job you need a leader to do. I wonder if they miss Pelosi yet?
JB is teh WORST SPEAKER EVAR!!!!!!!1111!!!!111!!!!ONE11111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!
It;s not surprising they turned to post offices. They already extended the committee to plan for Reagan's 100th birthday last April. Reagan's 100th birthday was last February.
Republicans just love to create Fake crisis. This should just be about paying our debt and moving on. Republicans are desperately trying to rewrite a plan, twisting arms to try and get votes, just wasting time and money (fiscally responsible?). If we go into default it will be self inflicted. If they were so concern they would save $4T by just getting rid of Bush Tax Cut going back to Clinton's tax rate. So, if we go into default we create a larger bill and must pay/spend more money? Their logic is plain ludicrous. They continue to lie and say they are fiscally resonsible as they create more debt. Go figure.
Spend Time On: writing bills that would create jobs instead of cutting jobs Or just go back and vote YES for these bills instead of against them: An American jobs effort to end government contracts rewarding corporations that ship American jobs overseas; Currency Reform for Fair Trade Act to provide our government with effective tools to address unfair currency manipulation by countries like China, which could help create 1 million American manufacturing jobs by leveling the international playing field for American workers and businesses. American Jobs Matter Act – to give preference in federal contracts to U.S. manufacturers that create jobs here at home.
Stay Away From: Fake Crisis, protecting taxpayer subsidies for Big Oil and speculators driving up gasoline prices, and against gasoline anti-price gouging legislation for consumers; providing more tax cuts for millionaires, and protect tax breaks for corporations shipping jobs overseas; strengthening the role of special interests in our elections (by ending the Presidential Election fund that promotes small campaign donations) and against disclosure of foreign countries, companies, or individuals donating to presidential campaigns; Anti-Abortion bills. These things republicans are voting on Won't Balance the Budget or Create Jobs that they Promised.
What fake crisis, after all the dilemma is fully owned by the Democratic Party.
btw a bill was passed early this week and the senate dems balked on it.
So is this like when the republicans were saying the Dems could not pass bills out of the Senate while holding a super majority (which really neber was the case anyway)?? Kinda ironic if you ask me. Boehner has a huge majority in the House and can't move his bill... Karma?
And the rethuglicons might have come through on their big promise--maybe a pizza delivery job was created under their leadership?!
Inadvertently of course, since Boehner and the Baggers thought they controlled the world...until now.
Where are the jobs, Jobs, JOBS you campaigned on John Boehner and company?????
Where's your fiscal responsibility (especially since President Obama offered a plan that was MORE fiscally responsible than anything the Reich Wing has produced)?????
Inadvertently of course, since Boehner and the Baggers thought they controlled the world...until now.
Where are the jobs, Jobs, JOBS you campaigned on John Boehner and company?????
I am almost to the point that I would do anything to avoid looking like the world's laughingstock. We are already stereotyped to be spoiled and greedy. Now, we need to add irresponsible, on top of it?
Awwww, come ON, already! Come up with a viable compromise that taxes fairly, removes subsidies to private businesses, and pulls solid jobs back in America. How freaking hard can that possibly be? Remove that damned rider on the bills, the one that keeps sneaking this parasitic behavior in under the radar!
He should have slipped valium into the Pizza. Then offered the second major food group item, Beer. Form a circle to do back rubs on the guy to the right of you and sing Kum Baya.
It would have worked for everyone except Eric Cantor. There is no one to the right of him.
Jobs? You want jobs? Just think of how many people it takes to make a pizza let alone the number it takes to feed all those hard working Republicans. Oxymoron? Most likely. Morons? Absolutely.
Can't wait to go to the new John Boehner's career memorial post office.
spray painted orange on the outside and notorious for its inability to garner consensus about where the parcels should go, but the only post office where the boss hands out bonus checks signed by Phillip Morris.
Unfortunately, the Boehner Memorial Post Office (and Liquor Store) was placed on the closings list this week. The reason given? it didn't actually serve anyone but its' namesake.
Rachel Maddow called this one months ago: John Boehner is bad at his job.
#2 - Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:08 AM EDTI blame the DC Pizzas. If we had pizza like Ray's from NY or even the second quality stuff that they call pizza in Second City, Boehner would have swayed a few more.
Pizza? Italian food? Sounds like immigrant food to me....
Failure: For Boehner
Maybe those E.D. medications aren't all their cracked up to be. LOL!!
#3 - Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:33 AM EDTMan, the Tea Party is working him over. They have Bohner jumping through hoops. He really can't do anything because it is too many Tea Party Reps. Wow and be careful what you wish for as the Tea Party people want title and power. They want to hold the big jobs. Look how many are coming on TV to voice their thoughts.
#4 - Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:41 AM EDTThis has to be a big joke between these a holes in Washington, I'll bet their laughing their asses off about what fools the American People are to take all their crap. Both Parties included .The tree will fall down if you shake it hard enough and long enough. Wonder when Bastille day will come??
#5 - Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:42 AM EDTYou know, really, I'm tired of hearing that it's "Both Parties included." It's not both parties included, it's the Republican Party. We could have had a bill signed last week that would have reduced the deficit by $4 trillion over the next decade, That was the President's plan. Why did it fail? Because the Republican Party refuses to raise taxes on the wealthiest Americans by letting the Bush tax cuts lapse. Check out this interview with Bruce Bartlett, former policy adviser to President Reagan and undersecretary of the Treasury for George H.W. Bush. Bartlett lays the blame for this impending disaster--rightly so--on his own party.
They always say "both parties do it" because they think you're too stupid to really know what's going on.
But calling me a they is not a insult though??? To me it was and needed a remark like I made.
And I'm fed up with all of the Washington aristocrats along with many others.
To me it was and needed a remark like I made.
you were incorrect in your assessment.
And just because I have my own opinion is no reason to kill me and delete what I wrote in response because I don't go along with your pack.
Actually, it was. You called those who disagree with you names which is a direct violation of the Code of Honor you agreed to when you signed up for an account with NewsVine. I would have been remiss in my dities as moderator to let it stand.
Like I'm a disease or ignorant and or on some other side ???? You know when you deleted me you left it up to all of your "kind" to make up something in their minds what I wrote something terrible.
Still doing it. Still being reported. You can be self-deprecating all you wish.
I am not surprised nor am I one bit sorry for Boehner. This is KARMA for his and McConnells publicly announced scheme to try and make Obama a one-term President instead of doing what is RIGHT for the country.
Boehner, Cantor, and McConnell have LIED repeatedly to the entire nation on every major issue that has come before Congress since Obama was elected. Karma is a bitch isn't it?
#8 - Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:23 AM EDTfool. You must be another loser on this site that's on the government dole.
superbig, you are suspended for a day for violating rule # 1 of the Code of Honor.
Wow! Sally came in early today! and started ticking off the trolls at 7:30 in the morning?
Note to self: Mind your P's and Q's, she's on a tear. lol
They encouraged foaming at the mouth radicals and now they are being eaten alive by those radicals.
Poetic justice? You betcha!
#9 - Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:39 AM EDTMaybe JB should just walk out of the talks, it worked so well with Obama.
#14 - Fri Jul 29, 2011 5:25 AM EDTThey did walk out of the talks, the Republicans/Boehner decided to put their own plan on the floor. this is what happens when you involve low informed jackboots that only want a fight and not learn or negotiate. He made a pact with animals, he's about to be dinner.
Well Johnnie you bough the house now you have to learn how to spend your time getting it to work, stay out of the bar and read about past leaders and how they did their job it it don't involve cajoling them with fast food dear boy.
#15 - Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:25 AM EDTBoehner knows the whole foundation on how stupid and bizarre these tea party radicals are and is willing to put his career on the line for these flawed idiots that don't even come close to reality. its hard to swallow on what principles Boehner is content with but with his experience he has become ineffective with his constitutes.
#16 - Fri Jul 29, 2011 12:52 PM EDTsad,
he's working his butt off to get a "yes" vote on a bill that has absolutely no chance of even coming up for a vote in the senate and that the president has said he'd veto.
#17 - Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:12 PM EDTCut cap and balance, and Americans are waiting for their ss checks and so is the military for their families and these idiots tea party radicals are going to let the Gov. default. because the stupid republicans think that the dept ceiling is spending more money, it pays the regular bills every month. so where is this more spending coming from, what are they talking about these idiots.
#18 - Fri Jul 29, 2011 1:47 PM EDTit pays the regular bills every month.
14 Million checks a month from the Federal government. Including military pay, SS, RR Pensions, Black Lung Miners payments.
He should've put food stamps and other set-asides on the pizza.
#19 - Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:47 PM EDTAs I said earlier
The repubs will do everything to destroy the economy because they think that is the only thing that will get them elected after they tried to end soc sec, medicare and medicaid with the ryan sham.
The rest of the world knows that will lead to a world depression. So repubs, with most of america blaming you for this as well as the rest of the world blaming you for this attempt at world economic collapse how do you think you are going to do in the 2012 election????? Oh and add in to the mix that the 5 rightwingers on the supreme court have allowed unlimited corporate and foreign money to flood our elections, you repubs and tea baggers are headed for a political mass extinction event.
#20 - Fri Jul 29, 2011 11:33 PM EDTQuestion? Why do we have to borrow an additional 2.4 trillion, if we are cutting 2.4 trillion from the budget? If they cut 2.4 trillion, we would not need to borrow the money. Yes I know, it is "complicated". Having been on the hill a few times I know what this means. Smoke and mirrors. All of our leaders have failed us, and I can no longer applaud the idiocy of any party. We, the taxpayers, are the only ones who will be paying the price. Please keep this in mind when contacting DC. Everyone on "the hill" is counting on you to take one side or the other, simply to avoid looking closely at what is really going on.
#21 - Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:55 AM EDTIt's not smoke and mirrors. It's called math and bookkeeping. The cash flow doesn't necessarily line up with the budget cuts and the payment cycles. For all the Republican lectures about small businesses, you'd think Teabaggers would understand what is a common problem for business owners. Remember? Just a few months ago, when the Fox World was all abuzz about Obama's policies shutting off credit? Credit that businesses needed to meet expenses? Expenses like payroll?
and it is cutting 2.4 trillion over 10 years, not from the current budget.
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